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Ceil
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Posted - 04/26/2009 :  5:11:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ceil's Homepage Send Ceil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know this was discussed some time ago, but it's very hard to find in the archives:

I want to knit a six-stitch cable, and know that the width will shrink as a result of the cable. How many stitches should I increase to make up for that? Will 2 extra stitches be enough?

As long as I'm at it, is there any rule of thumb for increasing stitches, depending on the size of the cable?

Thanks!

Ceil

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eldergirl
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Posted - 04/26/2009 :  5:31:47 PM  Show Profile Send eldergirl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Ceil,

The silver bullet is, SWATCH !

Set up your stitch count with whatever stitch is the main stitch for the piece, then any purl stitch background stitches for the cable, then the cable, then reverse your pattern and add enough regular stitches to get a good count. knit for four inches or so.
Then figure out from the "regular" stitches (stockinette?) what the gauge "should" be, and then measure and count the stitches to set the gauge for the cable unit.
This should allow you to figure out your stitch count.
You could try just adding stitches, and since I don't know your pattern I can't tell you much. But if you swatch, you will know all!

Good luck,

Anna
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Ceil
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Posted - 04/26/2009 :  6:19:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ceil's Homepage Send Ceil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was hoping no one was going to say that. I did knit a flat swatch to get regular gauge, then frogged it. Guess I'll have to start over.

Ceil

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fiddlerbird555
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Posted - 04/27/2009 :  08:32:54 AM  Show Profile Send fiddlerbird555 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the first estimate is "as many stitches that are crossed is how much wider things should be" (i.e. cable 6 means add 3 stitches)

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eldergirl
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Posted - 04/27/2009 :  4:31:25 PM  Show Profile Send eldergirl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with fiddlerbird, actually, but I think swatching still is necessary.

Anna
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purlthis
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Posted - 04/28/2009 :  05:54:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit purlthis's Homepage Send purlthis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep, 1.5 times is the # generally speaking, but swatch. I hate it too. : /

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fmarrs
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Posted - 04/28/2009 :  1:42:46 PM  Show Profile Send fmarrs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cure for swatch hating:

spend hours, weeks, etc. knitting a garment and then find out that it doesn't fit because it came out the wrong size. If one dose doesn't cure you, continue repeating until you learn your lesson.

Swatching can be a lot of fun. It allows you to find out and learn about your yarn. Ask Clara, she didn't learn all she knows about yarn without swatching, and I'll bet she enjoys it, too.

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Ceil
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Posted - 05/01/2009 :  10:08:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ceil's Homepage Send Ceil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Veni, vedi, swatchi,.....

I am 3/4 done with the project, and now see there is enough yarn for matching mittens with 4-stitch cables.

This yarn told me that two more stitches needed to be added for 6-stitch cables, so I guess I'll swatch again for 4. I don't mind swatching; it's just that I'd done it before with this yarn and didn't write the results down. :<( However, this time, I'm changing needle sizes, making a new swatch necessary. Thanks, everyone!

Ceil

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Ceil
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Posted - 05/04/2009 :  3:56:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ceil's Homepage Send Ceil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, so I know a little more. Answer: It depends.

I knitted a swatch, and figured out that a 3x3 cable shrank the width by 2 stitches. I added these in the area of each cable, then knitted legwarmers.

They came out too big.

Maybe it didn't help that I lost weight, including an inch off my calves (from >last year's< measuring; didn't bother to check again, duh), but I had also completely forgotten that the ribbed cuffs would be worked on needles 2 sizes smaller.

It turns out that, in this case, anyway, I didn't have to add stitches at all, due to the stitches being larger where the cables are. I frogged the legwarmers and am starting again. This time it's a more snug fit, and everything is fitting fine.

Ceil

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