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Sorka
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ShannonM
Gabber Extraordinaire
352 Posts |
 Posted - 10/17/2006 : 12:01:37 PM
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Wow. I knew about the dispute but didn't realize any shops were refunding. I would guess that most yarn stores can't afford to do that.
Shannon
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Sharyn
Gabber Extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 10/17/2006 : 12:13:39 PM
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I think it's more of a goodwill gesture to their customers, rather than an out and out refund. I don't know about you, but I rarely save my yarn receipts, and only sometimes the ball bands. So, if you bought 10 skeins a year ago, didn't save the receipt, and only saved one ball band (why would you save all of them if they are the same?) you could get credit for just one. And, they are not refunding - you get a merchandise credit.
So, I think that yarn shop is very clever! They are turning this situation into a marketing opportunity that will bring customers into their store. And, they are doing it with no out of pocket cost.
If I lived in Philadelphia, I would definitely support this store because they stand behind what they sell - and they've proved it. |
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catlady4
Chatty Knitter
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Posted - 10/17/2006 : 1:55:28 PM
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So - Cashmerino doesn't have cashmere in it? I haven't seen any articles anywhere about that one. Is this really correct?
Not trying to stir up anything - I just use Cashmerino and so I wanted to know what was going on. Thanks.
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hobbitknitter
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USA
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Sorka
Gabber Extraordinaire
483 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 2:25:22 PM
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huh.. what's that about hobbit knitter?
Denise
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minh
Permanent Resident and Destasher Extraordinnaire
USA
2896 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 3:02:38 PM
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Denise, SE is referring to this thread.
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mamid
Permanent Resident
Canada
1568 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 3:03:15 PM
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eek.
not good. especially for those with allergies. if we can't trust the label, then how do we know its safe?
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kdcrowley
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Sorka
Gabber Extraordinaire
483 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 6:47:29 PM
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Oh dear.. well didn't that thread get nasty!
It looks like this recall could possibly be a knee jerk reaction
I just thought it was interesting.
Denise
My blog has moved to KnitChat.com
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glccafar
Seriously Hooked
825 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 7:42:57 PM
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platys
Seriously Hooked
USA
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Posted - 10/18/2006 : 07:40:12 AM
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http://www.goknitinyourhat.blogspot.com/ has an interesting discussion of this issue (she doesn't name any names). Mainly, if it is true that there is no cashmere in DB Cashmerino Aran, then the YARN SHOP that sold it is on the hook, legally, for selling misrepresented yarns. And there could be fairly massive fines involved.
So, how each yarn shop is going to handle it, given that the distributor isn't taking back any yarn, is going to be interesting. Because if they sell DB cashmerino without warning consumers, they could actually be in trouble.
Gail
http://www.knittergail.com
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Leslie41
Chatty Knitter
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Posted - 10/18/2006 : 08:15:39 AM
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Long before this I noticed that my LYS (which only opened about a year ago) doesn't sell Debbie bliss or Noro (both KFI products). As I was interested in knitting with yarns from both these lines, I asked if she was going to be stocking them.
She told me no, because after consulting with various other owners of yarn shops (and at trade shows) that KFI was notoriously difficult to deal with and more trouble than they were worth. She stocks a ton of cascade stuff.
So this doesn't surprise me. But now I'm po'ed that the cashmerino aran baby sweater and hat I just made probably doesn't contain cashmere. I don't have enormous amounts of cashmerino but I do have some, as well as some cotton cashmere.
This is enough for me to swear off any of her cashmere blend yarns. I was on the fence about cashmerino anyway because it's so pilly. I think DB really needs to personally address this on her website.
You know, I don't really care about the motivations of cascade or anyone else in this matter. If we're getting ripped off, and yarn store owners are liable, that really stinks, and I'm grateful to anyone who makes such information public, even if they have ulterior motives.
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HilaryL
Gabber Extraordinaire
USA
360 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2006 : 08:28:29 AM
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My LYS(s) are all getting rid of their DB yarn because of not wanting to deal with KFI ... I have been so tempted by the sale prices! In fact I've bought quite a bit, just not the cashmerino (yet). But I suppose if you like the way the yarn feels and knits up, it is still a good yarn, just (perhaps) misnamed. It's not like it's dangerous or something and you have to throw out the baby sweater and hat, or whatever else you've made with it.
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WhiteStar
Chatty Knitter
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Posted - 10/18/2006 : 08:37:04 AM
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Am I in the minority? I really like the Cashmerino yarn in all it's various weights and I really don't care if it has cashmere in it or not. It's soft and yummy, the colors are great, it knits like butter and if it were just labeled with the wool and microfiber contents, I'd still buy it.
Anne in Colorado
http://whitestarsams.blogspot.com
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GFTC
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USA
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Posted - 10/18/2006 : 08:43:41 AM
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Originally posted by WhiteStar
Am I in the minority? I really like the Cashmerino yarn in all it's various weights and I really don't care if it has cashmere in it or not. It's soft and yummy, the colors are great, it knits like butter and if it were just labeled with the wool and microfiber contents, I'd still buy it.
Anne in Colorado
http://whitestarsams.blogspot.com
I have to say "me, too" on this one. I have been knitting with cotton cashmere and baby cashmerino for at least 3 years and I like both yarns very much. I have not had the pilling problems that others have mentioned.
I have to admit that I don't feel ripped off because I have never paid full retail (ahem, I live in NYC where retail price is a four letter word). I have bought it either on sale at LYS or online and from Janette in the UK on eBay.
In addition, I never really thought of it as actual cashmere anyway. DH has a phrase, "It sat next to......" as in watery chicken soup "sat next to a chicken" or a poor quality diamond "sat next to a diamond." Well, I figure this yarn "sat next to cashmere" so I guess I like it for what it is, not what it isn't. MHO FWIW.
GFTC of NYC
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KL
Permanent Resident
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Posted - 10/18/2006 : 09:15:04 AM
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As a LYSO, we recieved a very nice letter from DB stating that her yarns are indeed what they proclaim.
Immediately after, an announcement from another source that the yarns are not.
I predict that DB will separate herself from KFI as some others have. KL |
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Saleknitter
Warming Up
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Posted - 10/18/2006 : 11:13:41 AM
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FWIW...I really don't care if DB Cashmerino or Noro have cashmere or not. However, it does matter to me if the company is pricing the items as if they do have Cashmere and misleading customers. I must say I would be then ticked off!
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Leslie41
Chatty Knitter
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Posted - 10/18/2006 : 11:21:17 AM
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But I suppose if you like the way the yarn feels and knits up, it is still a good yarn, just (perhaps) misnamed.
Well, to my mind (and in a much smaller way, of course!) that's sort of like "misnaming" the quality of a diamond. The diamond may still be all glittery and pretty, but technically it's worth less and thus it's a ripoff.
<i>It's not like it's dangerous or something and you have to throw out the baby sweater and hat, or whatever else you've made with it.</i>
No, of course not! And you wouldn't have to throw out the diamond, either! 
But if cashmerino yarn has NO cashmere, it should be priced significantly less than it is. For example, her "merino aran" (which she's phasing out apparently) used to list retail at the Knitting Garden for $5.95. That is pure merino wool.
They are selling her "Cashmerino Aran" for $7.75, almost two full dollars more. If a customer purchases that cashmerino aran and there's no cashmere in it, at best they're getting a yarn that's 67% merino wool and 33% microfiber. At worst, they're getting 55% merino wool and 45% microfiber. For almost two dollars MORE per skein.
Think about all the money KFI and Debbie Bliss have made off of this "mislabling". Considering the ubiquity of her designs and her yarns, the most prominent and used of which is cashmerino, my guess is millions. And millions. At ours and our LYS expense.
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WhiteStar
Chatty Knitter
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Posted - 10/18/2006 : 11:27:44 AM
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But the DB Merino is NOT the same yarn as the Cashmerino. My LYS has both and I chose to buy the Cashmerino (for $2 a skein more) NOT because it was labeled as having Cashmere in it, but because I liked it better. In my opinion, it was worth the extra $2 a skein.
Anne in Colorado
http://whitestarsams.blogspot.com
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mokey
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