Just a gentle reminder that KR Forum policy advises against duplicate postings (i.e. "Oh heck, nobody's going to see my question in this section so I'm going to post it in four other sections too.")
Doing dilutes any value that we may obtain from the conversation, since it's fractured among several locations. And it also wastes people's time, since they may go to the trouble of answering your question - only to discover that you asked it three other places, and three other sets of people also went to the trouble of answering your question. So much better to concentrate the conversation in one location - that's how you really get a dialog going.
So please, no matter how tempting it may be, please don't post duplicates. I delete them anyway, but it's far easier not to do it in the first place.