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agnesgooch
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573 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2012 :  7:26:59 PM  Show Profile Send agnesgooch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe everyone is just tired of all the previous crap during the Republican primaries. I'm quite surprised no one has brought up the upcoming election, so I will. Any thoughts about the Republican VP pick?

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ClimberKnits
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USA
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Posted - 08/12/2012 :  08:43:01 AM  Show Profile Send ClimberKnits a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Underwhelmed.
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flicka
Seriously Hooked

879 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2012 :  09:48:18 AM  Show Profile Send flicka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I smiled. Ryan is a very polarizing figure.

Also, I don't understand Romney feeling the need to placate the Tea Party people.

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Punctuatedknitter
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Posted - 08/12/2012 :  10:19:52 AM  Show Profile Send Punctuatedknitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that the idea is to make sure as many Republicans come out to vote as possible, and many do not like or trust Romney. The primaries seemed to be all about trotting out one person or another desperately trying to find a suitable, not-crazy, not-Romney and it didn't work (to be fair, anyone who can wait until 2016 before running is better off doing so). So Ryan is supposed to excite those people to vote, who otherwise might not.

I think this is because the race is expected to be close, and the number or undecideds so small, that the concern for both parties will be to excite their base enough to get them to the polls. I also think this is the purpose of all the mud-slinging ads--less to convince people not to vote for the subject of the attack ad but rather enrage your own supporters about how evil the other guy is.

Back to the selection of Ryan, it certainly serves that purpose. My level of disgust with our politicians is extremely high and I gave up on hoping any of the economic hardships I'm facing, or my family is facing, will be addressed by either party. Having someone like Ryan selected as VP, however, certainly motivates me to vote, even though it is unlikely in my state to make a difference.

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agnesgooch
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573 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2012 :  11:51:55 AM  Show Profile Send agnesgooch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately, in my state my vote won't make a difference, either. Of course, I'm still going to get out there and vote anyway. What I'm really worried about is instances of what seems like voter suppression that are happening right now.

With all that has happened in the last 10 years or so, I refuse to vote for anyone with an "R" next to his/her name. I'm sure someone will disagree with me and tell me Obama is the new Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot/whomever, but he's a hell of lot better than those assclowns on the other side of the aisle. What really irritates me are these m/billionaires who tell us they can't create jobs because of the tax situation, but yet they can drop major cash to support their candidate, who will guarantee that their tax rate will be reduced
even lower. I'm really perplexed by all these Tea Partiers that rally around these m/billionaire against their own interests.

Enough ranting.

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Shalee
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USA
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Posted - 08/12/2012 :  10:25:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Shalee's Homepage Send Shalee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All I ask is that the candidate actually tells me what he/she stands for and what action he/she is willing take. Hard facts, not empty insinuations and lies. I want my vote to go to someone who is willing to say what they will do, not just put down the person they are running against.

I'm flat out tired of all the implied reports that are nothing but lies. He said / she said bull! To knowingly slander someone, knowing the statement is false, just to get votes. Then when the truth comes out it is too late. So many people believe the damn lies that a retraction doesn’t mean anything.

I don't care which party you belong to, get your but off the couch and vote! The saying "I didn't vote, you can't blame me" is a bunch of crap. If you can't get off the couch, vote by mail. Just vote. Then if the person you voted for doesn't win, you can complain.

Sharon in NW PA
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PBELKNAP
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2012 :  06:03:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit PBELKNAP's Homepage Send PBELKNAP a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The thing I'm getting tired of is all the political ads! I swear, does anyone even take them seriously? All they do is mud-sling at each other. I get the majority of my information either by reading or from the debates.

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robinstephanie
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Posted - 08/13/2012 :  06:57:39 AM  Show Profile Send robinstephanie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Makes me very, very happy that I didn't buy a new tv set or a converter box when we went digital. My tv works for DVDs and that's it. I already know my political positions and don't need my emotions rattled by months of mud-slinging baloney in order to make up my mind. It's so painful, giving the state the country is in.

Robinsteph

Different is good. ~Matthew Hoover
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Shalee
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2012 :  07:38:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Shalee's Homepage Send Shalee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
robinstephanie, that brings a smile to my face! I haven't even turned my tv on to watch anything but what I've taped and then I fast forward thru the ads!

PBELKNAP, I agree with you about not needing the frustration and stress by the months of mud-slinging baloney! Unfortunately I do "hear" some of what is going on when I turn the radio on, while in the car.

One more "rant" of mine. Please don't anyone take this personally because I don't direct this at any specific person. It has been going on for years and just really bothers me. Please, when refering to the President of the United States, insert "President" before his name. Whether it is a prior or current president. Please respect the "office" of the Presidency. President Obama, prior President Bush, etc. Thank you.

Sharon in NW PA
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agnesgooch
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573 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2012 :  11:19:39 AM  Show Profile Send agnesgooch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by robinstephanie

Makes me very, very happy that I didn't buy a new tv set or a converter box when we went digital. My tv works for DVDs and that's it. I already know my political positions and don't need my emotions rattled by months of mud-slinging baloney in order to make up my mind. It's so painful, giving the state the country is in.

Robinsteph

Different is good. ~Matthew Hoover


/quote]


I don't watch much tv on an actual television, just whats on-line (still too much tv). I go on Facebook several times a day. I had to hide the newsfeeds of several of my "friends" (actually relatives) because some of the stuff they posted would make my blood boil.
During the republican primary for senator here in Texas I got really tired of the constant ads of Ted Cruz and David Dewhurst slamming each other.

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Milinda
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USA
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Posted - 08/14/2012 :  1:50:34 PM  Show Profile Send Milinda a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My thoughts. Well, vote or don't complain to me or I will have nothing to say to you and I will stick my fingers in my ears and with great immaturity, sing, "La la la lalalalalalallaaaa."

Next, I am grateful to live in WA state where we mail in our ballots so other than the ads for the gubernatorial race, we are spared the BS ads.

And finally, I agree. I refer to POTUS as Mr. or President. For that matter, even though I did not agree with him in the least, he was always Mr. Bush and is still such. I will not lower myself to name calling, no matter who it is. I think anyone who knows me in the slightest knows I am for Mr. Obama but that is simply my opinion and not intended to influence anyone.

Vote as if your life depended upon it because it does. Especially women.

M L
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weavingway
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43 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2012 :  2:00:51 PM  Show Profile Send weavingway a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with Shalee. I recently returned from a trip to Norway and at a dinner someone had to bring up this years election and our tour guide asked a general question about President Obama. I was ashamed as round the table comments popped up like weeds with so little respect for him or the office of President. How can Americans who flew every flag available after 9-11 speak with such disrespect about the highest office in our country. Whether you like him or not, he is President or Mr. Obama.
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imamshua
Chatty Knitter

USA
300 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2012 :  4:50:47 PM  Show Profile Send imamshua a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The President is President Obama, not Mr. Obama. Mr. implies he is just another adult male. The pundits and newscasters that talk about Former President Bush NEVER call him Mr. Bush, but IMHO denegrate the President and most certainly the office by calling the current President Mr. Obama. They call Gov. or Fmr Gov. Romney - not Mr. Romney, Former Speaker of the House Gringich, not Mr. Gringich, Representative or Congressman Ryan not Mr. Ryan, Rep. Bachmann, not Mrs. Bachmann and on and on. This has been a pet peeve of mine for sometime.

Sally

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Punctuatedknitter
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Posted - 08/24/2012 :  6:25:07 PM  Show Profile Send Punctuatedknitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My pet peeve is the very large number of f---ups in government and business who f---ed up the economy and can't get their acts together to try to fix it.




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Punctuatedknitter
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819 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2012 :  10:33:57 AM  Show Profile Send Punctuatedknitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I apologize for getting cranky on you all yesterday. I know the KR members are kind and warm-hearted people. Outside this nice corner of the internet, there are lots of people who haven't really been affected by the recession, and don't know, don't care, or blame those who have been. I am frustrated and took it out here.

Sorry!
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Shalee
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USA
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Posted - 08/25/2012 :  4:13:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Shalee's Homepage Send Shalee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Apology accepted, by me, anyway. It is unfortunate that we have such frustration and feel that there is little we can do to change the situation for the better. Like I said, Vote.

I remember when President Bush was in office and there were things said that disturbed me. Now there are still things being said that are frustrating, but everyone has the right to feel however they feel. Let us not be to vocal in an unappropriate way, but everyone has the right to free speach.

Like most others here I have very strong feelings as to how I feel, but I don't want to be yelled at, so I try to keep the tone down.

Please remember how important your vote is. No matter who wins not all of us will be happy with the outcome, but together we can try to make things easier for those we know who are really having a hard time. I'm ok but know many who are really hurting.

Once the elections are over I feel that the suspense of what will happen will be over. We can then get on with our lives, and thank heavens we won't be subject to any more political ads!

Sharon in NW PA
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flicka
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879 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2012 :  8:24:27 PM  Show Profile Send flicka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Punctuatedknitter:
quote:
My pet peeve is the very large number of f---ups in government and business who f---ed up the economy and can't get their acts together to try to fix it.


I don't think you need to apologize. You clearly weren't targeting anyone on KR, just the people who did the f---ing up. And who never suffered any consequences. (Okay, the consequences thing is my pet peeve.)

flicka

P.S. Sorry you had a bad day.

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Grand-moogi
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Australia
783 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2012 :  04:50:09 AM  Show Profile Send Grand-moogi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is Oz, voting is compulsory. It is considered one of the duties of a citizen to form an opinion and express it in the belief that if we all put our heads together we should get the best result. Of course it does not necessarily work but there we are. We all trot off to every election and vote.
Like you, we are subjected to so much mud slinging that we lose patience.
The government is supposed to be there proposing policies and suggestions of how to run the country and the opposition is supposed to present the opposing policy so a good decision can be reached. Instead they care more about scoring points off one another by calling each other names etc. It makes us angry because while they are wasting time putting their energy into researching mud they are not spending their time and efforts on the job they should be doing. It is a bit like the sexual harrassment in the work place issue. While someone is sexually harrassing another employee, they are not doing the job for which they are paid.
If there was only some way we could get that message through to politicians, then our countries would be run so much better.

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Punctuatedknitter
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819 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2012 :  10:58:04 AM  Show Profile Send Punctuatedknitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flicka
And who never suffered any consequences. (Okay, the consequences thing is my pet peeve.)




That is what is getting to me too. No matter how we vote, there were no consequences, the same people are in power, and are using that power to ensure as little in the way of regulations and oversight as possible.

It will happen again and there is no will to prevent it. They have probably already begun the next scheme.
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Grand-moogi
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Australia
783 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2012 :  06:22:49 AM  Show Profile Send Grand-moogi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NO matter who you vote for, you still get a politician!

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flicka
Seriously Hooked

879 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2012 :  12:05:45 PM  Show Profile Send flicka a Private Message  Reply with Quote

originally posted by Grand-moogi:

quote:
NO matter who you vote for, you still get a politician!


Well, yes, I guess if you are running for office you are a politician. I happen to believe that politicians can work for the good, as well as the stereotype that your comment implies. If you think all politicians are venal, etc., why would you vote and urge others to vote?

I feel well-served by most of my representatives (7th District, Washington State). I do not like the partisan mess that the monied interests have supported, but I feel my representatives have done the best they can.

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