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pieheart
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  06:07:59 AM  Show Profile Send pieheart a Private Message
I'm looking for a ball winder for a larger skein of yarn. I have the standard $35 winder (red and white) that you see in most catalogs, but I've never seen a large winder. I was trying to wind some yarn from Briggs and Little, worsted weight, and the winder was full before the skein was wound. I sure hate to create m o r e ends when knitting, so I didn't want to break the yarn and wind another ball. What I did was probably sacreligious: I hand wound the yarn around the circumference of the ball, loosely. I have seven more skeins of this yarn left, what are my options?

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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  06:36:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit blr2449's Homepage  Send blr2449 a Yahoo! Message Send blr2449 a Private Message
http://www.yarn-store.com/yarn-winders-and-swifts.html has large and jumbo ball winders.

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jaymeKnits
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  07:50:11 AM  Show Profile  Send jaymeKnits a Yahoo! Message Send jaymeKnits a Private Message
You could hand wind the rest around the ball winder ball. With a ball that big I don't like to use the center pull anyway since it has a tendency to collapse and get tangled 1/2 way through.
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Lissa
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  08:27:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lissa's Homepage Send Lissa a Private Message
Super nifty trick: When your ball gets too big, take it off the ball winder, but DON'T CUT THE YARN! Leave a few inches, then re-thread and wind a second ball that's attached to the first! Same effect as a huge ball - fewer ends to weave in.

Lissa

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jaymeKnits
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  12:34:38 PM  Show Profile  Send jaymeKnits a Yahoo! Message Send jaymeKnits a Private Message
Lissa,

How do you do that? Wouldn't it twist the strand attaching the 2 balls around and around or actually wind it with the new yarn being wound? I can't make this picture work in my head. I guess if you held the first ball over the winder it would just twist it and not wind it? I'll have to experiment sometime.

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pieheart
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  1:28:53 PM  Show Profile Send pieheart a Private Message
Lissa, great idea! I thought of doing that, but I decided I needed another pair of hands, just in case things started to get tangled. I'll try it the first time when DH is home.

Jayme, that's just what I did. I was planning on using the center pull, but I can see your point about tangling. I think I won't take chances and use the outside strand!

blr2249: thanks for the link, I'll check it out!

pieheart
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Lissa
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  1:30:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lissa's Homepage Send Lissa a Private Message
You know, you have a point. I read this on someone's blog (with finished-ball pics) and thought it was pure genius, but I haven't tried it myself. Guess I'll be trying it this weekend!

Lissa

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Atavistic
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  1:33:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Atavistic's Homepage Send Atavistic a Private Message
Ball one, pull from the inside thread. The outside will collapse like normal, a few inches will be waiting before the next ball, which will have been started like a center pull ball, pull from inside thread...repeat to end.

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Lissa
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  2:46:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lissa's Homepage Send Lissa a Private Message
Amanda, I think the concern was in the actual winding of the second ball itself - how to keep the joining piece of yarn from getting massively twisted from the spinning action of the winder.. Using them once they're balled up wasn't the issue.

Lissa

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Atavistic
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  2:48:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Atavistic's Homepage Send Atavistic a Private Message
Make the strand between them longer than a few inches--like 5 feet. Would that work?

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Lissa
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  3:30:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lissa's Homepage Send Lissa a Private Message
Maybe. I only have a SUPERJUMBOBALLWINDERONSTEROIDS, but I'll do some experimenting this weekend. I feel responsible, since I started this whole thing...

Lissa

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mygomi
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Posted - 10/24/2005 :  9:39:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit mygomi's Homepage Send mygomi a Private Message
I ordered my jumbo winder from Angelika at www.yarn-store.com and LOVE it.

Before I got it, I would get some extra mileage from my regular winder by pulling the metal thing that the yarn hooks through out a bit while winding. That way, as the ball of yarn swings 'round, it doesn't get caught on the metal hook for at least another half inch or so.

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celia
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Posted - 10/24/2005 :  10:40:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit celia's Homepage Send celia a Private Message
I modified my ball widner to wind bigger balls by attaching a toilet roll core to the center. works fine. I lent it to JulieB and she tried it and works too. So maybe try making your existing ball winder hold larger skeins before buying a new one? You can see it at work at julie's blog - http://www.blog.ca/main/index.php/julies_stuff

Oh and i forgot to mention - to make it work that way, I don't use the yarn guide.

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Lanea
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  04:56:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lanea's Homepage Send Lanea a Private Message
I have a Fricke/Strauch ball winder (so does Lissa), and I love it.
http://www.strauchfiber.com/cgi-bin/BallWinder.cgi It can wind a ton of yarn, and costs less than the jumbo Royal winder. Not for nothing, but I've heard a lot of complaints about the plastic winders eventually breaking because the gears get munched up if you wind fast or if they have a lot of weight on them.

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Lissa
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  10:28:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lissa's Homepage Send Lissa a Private Message
Yep, loves me my Bertha! If you buy one, make sure it's a newer one redesigned by Otto Strauch. He's added bearings and a nicer clamp system. The way to tell is if it has two clamps, it's the older one.

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achrisvet
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  12:20:50 PM  Show Profile Send achrisvet a Private Message
Lissa, haven't I seen you ue yours without using the clamp at all? I want to get one of these. I'm expecting some huge hanks from Ellen's half pint via Red Oak designs.

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Lanea
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  12:40:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lanea's Homepage Send Lanea a Private Message
I use mine without a clamp all the time, Anita. I don't have a good place to attach it to yet, so I use it on the floor, with me sitting on the floor with a foot holding the winder still--hard to describe but works like a charm. Unless the cat is interested--he is evil, and destroys many things.

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Lissa
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  1:18:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lissa's Homepage Send Lissa a Private Message
Yes, you have, Anita, but frankly, it's a bit of a pain to use it that way because it dances, so you have to hold it down. I've attached the clamps now, and enjoy using it MUCH more!

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pieheart
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  2:32:32 PM  Show Profile Send pieheart a Private Message
Ooohh, I like the toilet paper roll idea! I'm going to try it the next time I wind my GMS Double Twist. If I wind that yarn too quickly it shoots across the room as soon as the winder gets full. Unfortunately, the winder gets full when there is still yarn left. If I wind really slowly I can make it finish up the skein, but I think the paper roll idea is worth a try. My luck the paper roll and yarn will shoot across the room!

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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  2:36:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit RoseByAny's Homepage Send RoseByAny a Private Message
To answer the question about rewinding a second ball without cutting the yarn, you can't. Rather, you can, but the yarn will be so twisted it will be ruined. I'm not sure who did it on a blog, or how they produced anything reasonable by doing it, but it's not worth the mess - if you really can't get any more on the winder, cut it and weave the ends.

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Shelia
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Posted - 10/26/2005 :  04:56:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit Shelia's Homepage Send Shelia a Private Message
I've see people do it on a nostepinne, and using their hands, but not on a ballwinder. It's a great idea, though, if you hate joining or the yarn is difficult to join nicely.

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