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jennaknits
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USA
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Posted - 08/16/2005 :  4:26:19 PM  Show Profile Send jennaknits a Private Message
Long tail cast on = best way to go.

I've had problems throughout my knitting career with casting on and having a mile of yarn between the needles as I continued, and tried to remedy this by casting on as tight as humanly possible. When my Brown Sheep yarn ripped trying this, I knew I needed to do something. I guess I'd been doing provisional cast on or something. Whatever it is my grandma taught me. It's super fast and easy, but the quality isn't there. The bottom of my projects was generally embarassing. But, my friend's hat will be beautiful now. Yay!

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lella
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Posted - 08/16/2005 :  4:40:27 PM  Show Profile Send lella a Private Message
Years ago, jenna, I had the same problem and the long tail cast on solved it too. Congratulations on conquering your Everest! :) I love your blog.

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blwinteler
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Posted - 08/16/2005 :  5:28:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit blwinteler's Homepage  Send blwinteler a Yahoo! Message Send blwinteler a Private Message
I always used the "knit on" cast on. Then I learned the e-loop and the long tail at my knitter's group. Now, I use all three at different times. I do love the long tail. It leaves a pretty edge. I also find it easier to seam my washcloths with the edge it has. I like e-loop when I want to be fast (and I am guess that is what you were doing Jenna, quick, easy, not as nice). I don't really "knit on" as much now, but once in a while. I think I used a "cable knit on" for my Christmas stocking. It works well. It certainly is nice to finally have learned more ways to cast on. I still don't know a provisional cast on, but seems to me that one is where you start with scrap yarn and then pull it out when you need to have the beginning stitches live again.

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PatriciaS
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USA
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Posted - 08/16/2005 :  6:46:47 PM  Show Profile Send PatriciaS a Private Message
I've not done either the provisional or the longtail caston. I did see longtail demo'd on Knitty Gritty the other day and may try it sometime. I recently learned the crochet caston and to be honest, I love the way it looks -- I learned it for my Einstein coat (current project). Very handsome.

The only caston I even remotely "enjoy" doing is the e-caston which is quick, quick, quick. But a little sloppy, it's true. I learned with the knit-on caston which stitch was then twisted and added to the left needle. I don't get the cable caston at all, tho sometimes use it (why I don't actually know, LOL).

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Roxanne
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Canada
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Posted - 08/16/2005 :  6:53:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Roxanne's Homepage Send Roxanne a Private Message
I just learnt the tubular cast-on and quite like it for it's stretchy-ness which is especially useful at the waistline/hips of garments.

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GloriaMc
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Posted - 08/16/2005 :  6:57:34 PM  Show Profile Send GloriaMc a Private Message
lella-love your phrase 'conquering your Everest!' Truly puts many of the experiences we face in to a very positive perspective. Know not only will I think of that phrase while knitting....but as I teach all 'my' little kids who have difficulty in learning to read! Thanks!
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blazfglori
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Posted - 08/17/2005 :  03:04:57 AM  Show Profile Send blazfglori a Private Message
Woo-hoo!
It's always a great feeling to master a problem.

I've been doing the *long-tail cast-on* since the beginning.
I don't know any other way. ??

~Lori

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Parrot Girl
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Posted - 08/17/2005 :  06:56:26 AM  Show Profile Send Parrot Girl a Private Message
I was taught on longtail caston, too, and have had to force myself to learn others when the pattern calls for them (especially provisional). But it's really worth it to have that flexibility, isn't it?

"The past does not equal the future"

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mokey
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Posted - 08/17/2005 :  06:59:56 AM  Show Profile Send mokey a Private Message
Congrats! I personally can't stand it and use cable cast on.

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Mary Holton
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USA
121 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2005 :  09:18:11 AM  Show Profile Send Mary Holton a Private Message
I am not sure, but I thought I saw a version of the long-tail cast on using two stands9from two balls) tied together at the beginning and then cutting one off when you have enough stitches cast on. This helps to eliminate the too little or too much yarn for the cast one.
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tincanknitter
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USA
104 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2005 :  09:54:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit tincanknitter's Homepage Send tincanknitter a Private Message
When my mom taught me to knit years (& years) ago the long tail CO was the only I learned. I didn't even know there were other ways until I got brave enough to try more intermediate patterns. But they all definitely have there benefits.

Oh yeah, the long tail CO was a bugger to learn and I almost gave up on the whole knitting thing. Then when I taught my 13 yo DS, he picked it up, no problem!

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crise
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337 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2005 :  10:13:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit crise's Homepage Send crise a Private Message
I use the long tail co almost exclusively. I like the edge. For me it is the fastest, I can do it without thinking. While I know a few others, I generally fall back to the LTCO unless there is a pressing reason not to use it.

There are a few others that I would like to learn, including tubular, twisted german and I need to work on my provisional. But, hey, those are goals for the next year.

Kris

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Dicksie
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Posted - 08/17/2005 :  2:17:24 PM  Show Profile Send Dicksie a Private Message
I use long-tail pretty exclusively. I find that by pulling off about three times the length/circumference it's just about right. Nothing complicated there. Your initial cast on sounds like backward loop. It has a tendency to "grow" as you knit, leaving a long sloppy loop.

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vicky by the bay
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Posted - 08/17/2005 :  2:50:54 PM  Show Profile Send vicky by the bay a Private Message
I taught myself long tail cast on when learning to knit. But switched to cable cast on whenever I knit a first "right sided row" I think it's a prettier edge. I never ran out of yarn. But recently learned the long tail using two skeins and now use the longtail much more often and always when I start w/ a wrong side. I do want to learn the provisional cast on, but other than that I think w/ the long tail, cable, knit on, and provisional I think those are enough...but then there is this other cast on that is so pretty.....

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HoJo
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Posted - 08/17/2005 :  5:17:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit HoJo's Homepage Send HoJo a Private Message
I learned the long tail method when I was 7. I always found it difficult to teach others as they would never get past the cast on to the actual knitting.

Then I learned the knit on and cable cast on. I now use those exclusively when teaching a new knitter (while explaining to them that there are many ways to cast on) so that they can get to the "real" knitting.

After they've had some success with their first piece, I encourage them to try different cast ons to see which one they really like.

The e cast on, while easy, is very sloppy and can get very tight easily so I don't usually teach new knitters on this. However, my son (a beginner) LOVES the e cast on - he thinks of it as a "short" cut. Hey whatever works ;}.

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umbaba
Seriously Hooked

USA
693 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2005 :  6:20:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit umbaba's Homepage Send umbaba a Private Message
I like to use a super long tail when I cast on and then I tie knots at various measurements from the cast on edge that I am going to need for the pattern that I am making.

...as soon as I finish this row

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jennaknits
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USA
509 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2005 :  6:43:51 PM  Show Profile Send jennaknits a Private Message
Thanks everyone! I've been using my old CO (I think it is the e-loop, after all) to get an idea of how much of a tail to leave. And then I have a mile of yarn left. I finally realized....hey, that mile of yarn is usually between the needles :)

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lella
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Posted - 08/18/2005 :  12:28:58 AM  Show Profile Send lella a Private Message
Someone showed me how to measure off for it, my Auntie I think. She wrapped the yarn around the needle ten times and then did the multiples of ten stitches from there, the old 10,20,40, 80.. thing with the yarn. It's pretty accurate.

Gloria, sometimes it's the big "ahaa!" and makes you feel great for a long time, that conquering Everest. You teach the little ones? Sweet indeed.

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SerMom
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  10:31:57 PM  Show Profile Send SerMom a Private Message
The simplest and most effiecient way to do the long tail is with 2 seperate ends, in my opinion. You can use either 2 balls or both ends of one ball. No fuss, no muss, no guessing, no waste.

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