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Nadege
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  1:09:56 PM  Show Profile Send Nadege a Private Message
I bought KnitPicks dye your own wool and used 5 pkts of Kool aide to 4oz of yarn. I followed directions carefully (vinegar, not agitating yarn much etc) and wanted a uniform color, but the yarn dyed unevenly. Some parts are light pink and other parts almost white. Even though this is not the effect I wanted, I'll pretend I wanted tie dye. I'm wondering if I did something wrong, or should I just buy "real" dyes?

Thanks
Nadege

Ditzy Girl
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  2:54:22 PM  Show Profile Send Ditzy Girl a Private Message
Just buy more kool aid and redo. I don't think 4 packs were enough, more like 10 or 12 packs.

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truly violet
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  3:05:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit truly violet's Homepage Send truly violet a Private Message
that's why I use the straight FD&C colors...
they are really concentrated.
I actually try to dye in a heathered uneven way and end up with it too even.....
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Lissa
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  3:30:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lissa's Homepage Send Lissa a Private Message
Yep, sounds like the little bit of KA you used struck where it landed, and exhausted right there.

Lissa

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lemons
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  3:34:39 PM  Show Profile Send lemons a Private Message
I've had that problem, even when I used more Kool-Aid than recommended. Left it several hours, and it didn't take up all the color. Does it have anything to do with how wet the wool is when you put it in the dye bath? Could one part of a hank be wetter than another?

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Deni
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  4:10:19 PM  Show Profile Send Deni a Private Message
Wouldn't it be better to put the KoolAid in the boiling vinegar/water mixture before you put in the yarn if you wanted it to be an even color all over?
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truly violet
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  5:10:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit truly violet's Homepage Send truly violet a Private Message
you should dissolve all the powder stuff ahead of time....( I would dissolve it in either boiling water or hot water/vinegar)
and then let it settle a bit....
do not pour out the settement into the bigger dye vat....


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Deni
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  6:56:40 PM  Show Profile Send Deni a Private Message
I was just thinking about the tutorial on this page -- the second one that starts down the page a bit with the title OVERDYEING / ONE-COLOR DYE / HOW TO DYE A HAT. That seems like the logical way to do one-color dyeing.
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lemons
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  10:08:27 PM  Show Profile Send lemons a Private Message
My process is to wet down the wool for at least 30 minutes in water that has a little vinegar, dissolve the Kool-Aid completely in the water and then put the wool into the dye, which has enough liquid to completely cover the wool. I've tried it with the wool quite wet and with some of the water spun out in a salad spinner; problems both ways. Kool-Aid was very well dissolved. I get paler stripes that occur near each other in the hank, which is why I think it's liquid related, rather than the sprinkly sort of stuff that might occur with incomplete dissolution of the KA.

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SerMom
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Posted - 08/02/2005 :  12:03:04 AM  Show Profile Send SerMom a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by truly violet

that's why I use the straight FD&C colors...
they are really concentrated.
I actually try to dye in a heathered uneven way and end up with it too even.....
vi
the grass is always greener



Vi, where do you get the FD&C stuff?

I like variegation, too. That's why I ended up over-dyeing my HPY yarn.

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Lissa
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Posted - 08/02/2005 :  05:58:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lissa's Homepage Send Lissa a Private Message
It's not clear from your post whether you "cooked" the dyed yarn or not. The dye won't set unless it is either steamed or microwaved.

Lissa

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MMario
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Posted - 08/02/2005 :  06:09:44 AM  Show Profile Send MMario a Private Message
also - from your description of how the streaks of lighter colour appear - it may be your hanks are too tight - and either the water or the dye liquid is unable to penatrate the hank evenly. hanks for dyeing should be loose. while you don't want to agitate the wool while it is being dyed - it does help to give it SOME movement to make sure the dye liquid is penatrating evenly.

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Shelia
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Posted - 08/02/2005 :  06:14:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit Shelia's Homepage Send Shelia a Private Message
Well, I'm not the expert dyer that some are on the forums, but if you are mixing vinegar into the soaking water, it will cause the KoolAid dye to "strike" very quickly when the yarn comes into contact. Usually when an even dye coverage is desired, some type of a wetting agent is used to slow the strike down. I have used Synthropol, salt, and plain old liquid soap in the soaking water to do this. Remember, KoolAid already has acid in the powder, so additional acid will just cause the dye to take up even faster. You can always add vinegar to the dyepot after the yarn is already in it, if it's not exhausting fast enough.

Just some thoughts-

Shelia
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lemons
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Posted - 08/02/2005 :  06:41:37 AM  Show Profile Send lemons a Private Message
Yes, I've cooked it. But the "striking" remarks make very good sense.

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Nadege
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Posted - 08/02/2005 :  08:49:33 AM  Show Profile Send Nadege a Private Message
Thanks for all the info. I guess I'll just try again. I did put the vinegar in with the Kool Aide mixture before I cooked it. When I put in the yarn like magic the yarn soaked all the dye immediately, so perhaps I will eliminate the vinegar and use more Kool Aide mix.

Nadege
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