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Patience
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Posted - 06/13/2002 : 3:08:21 PM
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I'm knitting a sock with a k2, p2 cuff from the top down. All was going great guns until I reached a p1 st (of the p2) and when I did it I had a hole in the pattern. I took it out but what it looks like is a very large loop. There is no other way to describe it but as a large loop.
I tried to pick it up to twist it this way and that and make the stitch come out right, but in the end I still have the hole. Would anyone know what I might be able to do to fix this?
These are the kinds of things that make me crazy with my knitting. Just how do all of you experts out there look at a mistake and figure out just how to fix it? I've looked at it from every angle and still can't tell whats what.
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Kathe
Chatty Knitter
 
USA
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Posted - 06/13/2002 : 8:58:15 PM
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Hi Patience,
Is it possible that on the previous round you picked up your work and started going the wrong way? That would make a hole and the loop that you referred to and it's easy to do if you put your work down in the middle of a round or row. The only way I know of to fix it well is to frog to that point, sorry, maybe someone else knows of a different way.
HTH, Kathe 
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ajar
Chatty Knitter
 
USA
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Posted - 06/13/2002 : 10:02:44 PM
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It is possible you may have inadvertently put a yarn over in your pattern which can be easy to do when switching from knit to purl stitches. If you are making the sock on double pointed needles and this particular stitch is at the beginning of a needle change, the yarn could have gotten wrapped around the adjacent needle, again causing a yarn over. If this is the problem, there will be one more stitch than what there should be.
If this is not the problem, you should be able to pull the yarn through the other stitches on that row to make the hole less noticeable. Your tension could have been loose for that stitch.
If the yarn doesn't seem to move through the row or become smaller, then you may have knit in the opposite direction like Kathe said. I did have done this before, but didn't realize it until it suddenly dawned on me that I was knitting looking at the inside of the work instead of the outside.
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Marjorie
Seriously Hooked
   
New Zealand
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Posted - 06/14/2002 : 12:59:35 AM
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I am not sure exactly what you could have done but I always suggest to people that it is better to undo back to that point and reknit even though it is frustrating at the time.Otherwise you are always going to be aware of it and it is going to annoy you.It could even put you off completing the project.I always tell people (who I'm teaching to knit)that learning to unpick and pick up the stitches again is all a valuable part of learning this wonderful craft. Marjorie
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arlinem
Gabber Extraordinaire
  
USA
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Posted - 06/14/2002 : 02:28:38 AM
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it sounds to me like you put in a YO without realizing it. you don't really have to frog the whole thing back to that point. you can just frog that particular stitch (essentially creating a "run" in your knitting like you would get in your stocking) to where the problem child is. then on the knit side of the stitch you can take a crochet hook and run it back up pulling each rung of the ladder through. now, where there is extra yarn, which is where the problem child is, you should twist that extra yarn as if you were making another stitch and essentially "knit" it together with the regular stitch. in other words, you're decreasing 1 st where the YO is. you knit it together (remember you're on the knit side not the purl side of this) because the extra yarn will hide itself behind the regular stitch so you won't see it. hope that i've made sense.
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fmarrs
Guardian angel
    
USA
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Posted - 06/14/2002 : 11:24:50 AM
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Look carefully at the loop of yarn. If both ends of the loop come from the left, you will have to frog it. If both ends of the loop come from the right, you will have to frog it. If you can't stand frogging it, drop the stitch next to it and use the extra loop of yarn to wrap that stitch and then crochet it back up to the top of your knitting. In effect you have made a short row. Be sure to twist it if you still have a hole.
If one end comes from the left and one end comes from the right you can fix it. First count out your pattern stitch (knit 2, purl 2) and determine if a stitch is missing or if the loop is extra. If the loop is extra follow arlinem's advice and put an extra twist in it or follow ajar suggestion and work out the extra yarn over 5 to 10 stitches. If a stitch is missing, you will have to find the missing stitch. (You probably knit 2 together inadvertently in the previous rows.) Carefully allow the stitch to drop row by row examining each row. Be sure to look at the stitches beside the dropped one on either side. When you have found it, use a crochet hook to bring it back up as arlinem also said to do.
I suggest you try to fix it whether or not you decide to keep it that way. This is a very good learning experience and the only way we learn to correct errors is to make errors.
Fran
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Patience
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USA
1076 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2002 : 12:04:12 PM
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Thanks everyone for your help. I just printed out all of your suggestions and I'm going to go and try them out.
Actually I transferred my stitches from 4 dpns to 2 circulars and prior to that point I had no problem with a large loop or hole so I don't know exactly how it happened. It's in the middle of the row though, not at the beginning or end. I'll keep you posted because I would hate to have to start these socks all over again and I'm a bit tentative about frogging on the circs, since knitting socks on 2 circs is new to me anyway.
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BLN3320
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2002 : 12:44:50 PM
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When you switched from four needles to two circulars could you have inadvertantly dropped a stitch? Beverley
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winjo9994@aol.com
New Pal
USA
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Posted - 06/15/2002 : 12:36:15 PM
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After reading about the mistake, the hole, as far as I am converned one is far better off undoing to the mistake and reknitting, otherwise it will always be ther, and YOU WILL ALWAYS KNOW IT. Youwouldn't want that. W. Joan.
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Patience
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Posted - 06/15/2002 : 8:06:50 PM
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I wanted to update all of you lovely people that so willingly took the time to try and help me, that I did wind up ripping it out for about 2 rows which was no small feat since I was doing it on 2 circulars. I still don't know where the loop came from, but it extended (once I starting ripping, from about the 6 stitch in which is where the loop was located to the end of the row as I ripped it back. I had a long piece of yarn that seemed to loosen once I pulled out the loop and the long piece went to the end of the row....sort of like it was on the outside edge laying against the back of the other 5 stitches. Clear as mud, huh? 
Anyhow, thank you so much for your advice. You're such a great group of knitters and friends.
Regards, Patience |
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fmarrs
Guardian angel
    
USA
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Posted - 06/16/2002 : 12:46:35 PM
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Dear Patience,
When I first started knitting I kept notes on what I had done to correct the mistake and it sure came in handy. I would not do the same thing for a stitch dropped under the arm as I would for one on the front of a sweater, I would probably accept a less than perfect correction for that one under the arm. Of course after a few more years I threw the notes away because by that time I had become an expert on correcting errors.....LOL My knitting looks good now... (brag, brag) not because I am a perfect knitter but because I am good at correcting errors.
Fran
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Patience
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Posted - 06/16/2002 : 6:38:58 PM
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Dear Fran,
As far as I'm concerned, I think that's one of the top three most important things in knitting......having the skill to fix all manner of mistakes and believe me Fran, I can make just about all types. 
I have always thought that there should be classes taught once someone already know how to knit that have many of the most common mistakes made and the student then learns how to fix these very mistakes in the class. I think that would be a great idea, but then again I'm someone who wants to know everything there is to know about knitting and then some. Of course I could never live long enough for that, but fixing mistakes is right up there at the top of my priorities. Thanks Fran for your help and I'll know who to come to in future (and you know there will be many future mistakes waiting for me).
Regards, Patience |
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